Furthermore, pertaining specifically to the italians, I would think the government would have learned after the humiliating fiascoes of WWII not to make alliances and concentrate on their own domestic problems.
While the major powers in this world were making their positions known about Iraq, if I had been leader of Italy, I would have used this opportunity to repair and improve relations with Russia, France and Germany. Italy is NOT a major player in the world's economy and lacks enough modern infrastructure.
While the world enjoys italian creativity in the domestic arts, the italians are lacking many of the basics of a modern country. I would have made deals with the Russians for nuclear power, since energy in Italy is more expensive than the US.
As a nuclear power, Italy would have gained a little more respect for itself, rather than perpetuating the stereotype of conniving, back-room, cowards making secret deals for profit. I hope the US burns Italy by not providing the italians anything at all. As a matter of fact, I hope US corporations doing business in Italy start outsourcing their labor to India and Pakistan.
Teach them a lesson to take pride in themselves and stop searching for alliances to take "care" of them. They should improve their country, build their infrastructure and learn from their stable mature neighbors up north. If the romans were alive today, they would ashamed.
Even Mussolini once said, "it is better to live one day as a lion, than a thousand as a lamb". The sheep in Rome are blind.
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Silvio Berlusconi - Pathetic, Embarrasing, Pompous Coward
by Utopiano Reformato inas a native italian and italian citizen, it has been a very long time since i have been this much ashamed of the current government in italy.
while the rest of true/real/noble and dignified europe displayed solidarity, this moron decides to use the war in iraq as an opportunity to lick the boot heels of the bush administration.
like spain and portugal, these three latin misfit countries allowed their normally defiant and independent reputations to suffer before the world stage in return for the hope of friendship/economic assistance and trade from the us.
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Silvio Berlusconi - Pathetic, Embarrasing, Pompous Coward
by Utopiano Reformato inas a native italian and italian citizen, it has been a very long time since i have been this much ashamed of the current government in italy.
while the rest of true/real/noble and dignified europe displayed solidarity, this moron decides to use the war in iraq as an opportunity to lick the boot heels of the bush administration.
like spain and portugal, these three latin misfit countries allowed their normally defiant and independent reputations to suffer before the world stage in return for the hope of friendship/economic assistance and trade from the us.
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As a native italian and italian citizen, it has been a very long time since I have been this much ashamed of the current government in Italy.
While the rest of true/real/noble and dignified europe displayed solidarity, this moron decides to use the war in Iraq as an opportunity to lick the boot heels of the Bush administration. Like Spain and Portugal, these three latin misfit countries allowed their normally defiant and independent reputations to suffer before the world stage in return for the hope of friendship/economic assistance and trade from the US.
A fool never learns. The cabals running the Bush administration would gladly accept any token support it can get its crooked hands on to further their zionistic goals. The latins in europe have deceived themselves and attempted to deceive their populations.
Fortunately, the students, the masses, the workers and the thinkers are not easily fooled. This war was a crucial time in history which presented a marvelous opportunity for europe to forge permanent bonds among the "old guard". When I speak of europe, I am obviously NOT including the UK. The UK is a central figure in europe, but in modern times is really linked until death with the US, for better or for worse. Therefore, the opportunity I speak of for a new stronger europe pertained to Germany, France, Holland, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Turkey and the morons in Rome.
Instead of showing solidarity, Berlusconi the weasle, like a Judas, like a coward, decides to defiantly publicize support
for the US war. So, the US goes forward with only one true, legitimate military power (UK) and a pathetic, embarassing, motley coalition of the poorest, corrupt and struggling countries in southern and eastern europe.
Let me guess, these second and third tier nations were all expecting grandiose promises of trade, commerce and aid, right? Well, the US cannot afford to help any of them and the promises, if they existed at all, will definitely be broken, ignored or forgotten. That is exactly what they all deserve.
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Ten Commandments in Courthouse
by rem inoh, yeah, your god's law... as if your religion and god is the only one out there.
good advice, but it's pretty obvious.
10. you shall not covet your neighbor's house; you .
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Very good research Elsewhere! Excellent job!
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Ten Commandments in Courthouse
by rem inoh, yeah, your god's law... as if your religion and god is the only one out there.
good advice, but it's pretty obvious.
10. you shall not covet your neighbor's house; you .
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I am forced to agree with the Czar. While China may have a deplorable record in human rights and a less than adequate judicial system or trial by representation, their shotcomings/abuses are not related to whether or not the lack of the ten commandments affects their ability to govern.
Claiming we would become abusive like the chinese communists if it were not for the ten commandments is quite a stretch. The colonial forefathers made grandiose claims of freedom and equality as christian men, WHILE OWNING SLAVES. An affinity to judeo-christian teachings in no way guarantees additional measures of freedom, as evidenced by crusades, civil rights, apartheid, etc. -
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Ten Commandments in Courthouse
by rem inoh, yeah, your god's law... as if your religion and god is the only one out there.
good advice, but it's pretty obvious.
10. you shall not covet your neighbor's house; you .
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KGB:
I can tell you understand and appreciate fairness and equality and desire freedom of representation. But, in effect and in principle, Judge Moore is NOT fighting for christian freedom. He is insisting on making judeo-christian representations in a publically funded place.
Indirectly, all of our taxes fund the federal government and the facilities they operate on a daily basis. If the tablets of Moses are to be displayed, then diplay them as you would a traveling exhibit. Present them as part of a cultural/ethnic/historical awareness week. In many federal buildings, I have seen african american items on display and exhibit during Black History Month. The same venue could be provided for religious tolerance week.
However, that is the absolute limit. I am not going to ignore my taxes being used to promote any ones opinion of what is historically the religion of any country. If a compromise cannot be reached, remove the tablets by force, fine the Judge and administratively sanction/censure him from the bench. He should have known better in the first place. -
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I passed my exam ! (... but 4 more to go)
by Simon ini'm now officially certifiable ... erm, i mean certified having passed my first exam:.
070-315 developing and implementing web applications with microsoft visual c# .net and microsoft visual studio .net.
i now have 2 more to do to get mcad status (ms certified application developer) and 4 more for mcsd (ms certified soution developer).
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Wow. What a weird coincidence! To this day, I have never passed a "free or beta" exam. Because they were free, I guess I slacked off and took the voucher for granted and I always regretted it after the fact.
I am glad that the vendors eliminate useless information from the courses, but some of it should stay. I think the switching information is necessary and is a good review for everyone, but useless outdated legacy stuff like "DECNET, Banyan Vines, ArcNET & IPX" is just a waste of time.
Then again, there are those folks with photographic memories who I call "CTM" and "MasterCTM". There are certified technology memorizers working all over the industry. A fews years ago, a lexicon of buzz words made anyone sound credible.
Nowadays, with Fibre Channel SANS, filtering and security, remote control, desktop imaging, and wireless, having the OSI memorized will not be enough.
I have seen a few poseurs fall by the wayside. And there are still thousands of microsoft mouse monkeys out there with paper certifications and have never built a box from scratch, recover a failed drive, setup a token ring or ISDN link for video conferencing.
One reason I continue supporting Novell is because their courses always met ISO criteria and received college credit, which you couldn't get with MS unless MS had bought the school new computers to be included in a degree program. Even now, they can't get themselves certified as secure because their products are like swiss cheese.
But,back to the point. I hope you pass the CCIE next time. I have never met any CCIE's and I would be proud to be acquainted with one. I have about a dozen certifications of which 5 need upgrading. I will finish three upgrades before the end of the year and finish the rest before spring.
My new goal is to earn that CISSP and CTT before the end of 2004. In order to get new business and focus on security, I will need a few more acronyms. I guess CCIE is like becoming Eagle Scout and some of are still cubs and weebloes. -
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Watchtower logical fallacies
by RunningMan ini believe that in order to effectively immunize a person against the disease of watchtowerism, it is necessary to bring them to a full, conscious understanding of their tactics.
i am currently working on a document for my son that shows how the society uses faulty logic to make their points.
the document lists several common logical fallacies and then provides examples from the societys teachings.
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Nice Job Running Man!
I hope it works!
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Poll: Do you trust Israel ? ? ? ?
by Iron Eagle inhey folks.
why is it that all americans are so damn pro - israel ?.
israel is totally against the united states; they are just using america for their own selfish gains.
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ThiChi:
You used a good source of information, under normal circumstances. However, since Madeline Albright has in the past been very outspoken about supporting pro-Israeli policies her declarations of who and what should be classified as "terrorist" does deserve at least a little scrutiny. I am sure by-and-large she is correct. However, since many believe that our government has been influenced by zionist cabals, it is also possible her oversight could have been prejudicial.
Is America influenced?
However, because American leaders are “superstitious”, they continue providing economic and political support to Israel for fear of divine disapproval. Israel has been the Anglo-American “lucky rabbit’s foot” since 1948. Do Americans know how much this “good luck charm” costs?
U.S. aid to Israel: about $5 billion dollars annually!
Year 2000 - Israel's total population: 5,842,454
Year 2000 - U.S population older than 14: 217,007,918Payment each man, woman, and infant Israeli receives annually from the U.S.: $855.80, or $71.32 monthly. Cost of payment to each U.S. citizen above the age of 14: $23.04
Source:http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/indexgeo.html
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/010201/0101015.htmlList of the Jews in President Clinton´s First Administration
NAME POSITION
Albright, Madeleine K US Ambassador to the UN
Altman, Roger Deputy to Secretary Bentson
Baird, Zoe Attorney General (Declined Post)
Berger, Samuel National Security Deputy Head
Boorstin, Robert Communications Aide
Boykin, Keith Communications Aide
Dreyer, David Communications Aide
Eisenstat, Stuart E Asst Secretary of State: Security
Eller, Jeff Communications Aide
Feder, Judith Advisor to Secretary of Health
Gober, Hershel Asst Secty for Veterans' Affairs
Herman, Alexis Secty to President: Public Works
Kantor, Mickey US Trade Representative
Klain, Ron Third White House Counsel
Kunin, Madeleine Assistant Secretary of Education
Kusnet, David Communications Aide
Lewis, Samuel Director of Strategy
Ludwig, Eugene A Director of the Mint (Jew of course)
Magaziner, Ira Cheif Advisor: Security Questions
Newman, Frank N Asst Secretary of State: Finance
Nussbaum, Bernard White House Counsel
Oxman, Stephen A Asst Secretary of State: Europe
Paster, Howard Presidential Secty for Congress
Pena, Federico F Secretary of Transportation
Rahm, Emanuel Presidential Secty Political Affairs
Reich, Robert Secretary of Labor
Rivlin, Alice Deputy Director: OMB
Rubin, Robert E Head: Counsel Economic Advisors
Segal, Eli Director: Office of Nat'l Service
Seidman, Ricki Communications Aide (Research)
Schifter, Richard US Ambassador to Israeli
Spero, Joan Edelman Asst Secty State: Econ Affairs
Summers, Lawrence H Asst Secty State for Policy
Tarnoff, Peter Asst Secty State: Pol Affairs
Waldman, Michael Communications AideArticle from the American Jewish magazine "Jewish Post", 16/9-1992:
Clinton Advisers: 5 of 7 are Jewish
NEW YORK - Of the seven advisers on whom Gov Clinton relies, at least five are Jewish and perhaps six; They are Robert Reich, 45, a professor of Harvard's John F Kennedy School of Government; Ira Magaziner, 45, president of SJS, Inc; Robert J Shapiro, 42, vice president of the Progressive Policy Institute; Samuel R Berger, 46, former deputy director of the State Department policy planning staff; and Michael Mandelbaum, 45, professor and director of American foreign policy studies at the Nitze School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University
The following is a list (which doesn't include lower staff levels) of Jews in the present Clinton adminstration:
(1/4/1998)Madeleine Albright
Secretary of StateRobert Rubin
Secretary of TreasuryWilliam Cohen
Secretary of DefenseDan Glickman
Secretary of AgricultureGeorge Tenet
CIA ChiefSamuel Berger
Head National Security CouncilEvelyn Lieberman
Deputy Chief of StaffStuart Eizenstat
Under Secretary of StateCharlene Barshefsky
US Trade RepresentativeSusan Thomases
Aide to First LadyJoel Klein
Assistant Attorney GeneralGene Sperling
National Economic CouncilIra Magaziner
National Health CarePeter Tarnoff
Deputy Secretary of StateAlice Rivlin
Ecomomic AdvisoryJanet Yellen
Chairwoman, National Economic CouncilRahm Emanuel
Policy AdvisorDoug Sosnik
Counsel to PresidentJim Steinberg
Deputy to National Security ChiefJay Footlik
Special Liason to the Jewish Community
(no other group has a special liason)Robert Nash
Personal ChiefJane Sherburne
President's LawyerMark Penn
Asia Expert to NECSandy Kristoff
Health Care ChiefRobert Boorstin
Communications AideKeith Boykin
Communications AideJeff Eller
Special Assistant to ClintonTom Epstein
Health Care AdviserJudith Feder
National Security CouncilRichard Feinberg
Assistant Secretary VeteransHershel Gober
Food and Drug AdministrationSteve Kessler
White House CounselRon Klein
Assistant Secretary EducationMadeleine Kunin
Communications AideDavid Kusnet
Dept AIDS ProgramMargaret Hamburg
Dir Press ConferencesMany Grunwald
Liason to Jewish LeadersKaren Adler
Dir State Dept PolicySamuel Lewis
National Security CouncilStanley Ross
National Security CouncilDan Schifter
Director Peace CorpsEli Segal
Deputy Chief of StaffAlan Greenspan
Chairman of Federal Reserve BankRobert Weiner
Drug Policy CoordinatorJack Lew
Deputy Director Management and BudgetJames P Rubin
Under Secretary of StateDavid Lipton
Under Secretary of The TreasuryLanny P Breuer
Special Counsel to The PresidentRichard Holbrooke
Special Representative to NATOKenneth Apfel
Chief of Social SecurityJoel Klein
Deputy Whlte Honse CounselSidney Blumenthal
Speclal Advisor to Pirst LadyDavid Kessler
Chief of Food & Drug AdininistrationSeth Waxman
Acting Solicitor GeneralMark Penn
Presidential PollsterDennis Ross
Special Middle East RepresentativeHoward Shapiro
- General Counsel for the FBILanny Davis
White House Special CounselSally Katzen
Secretary of Management and BudgetKathleen Koch
Heads FBI Equal Opportunity OfficeJohn Podesta
Deputy Chief of StaffAlan Blinder
Vice Chairman of Federal ReserveJanet Yellen
Heads Council of Economlc AdvisorsRon Klain
Chief of Staff for Al GoreList of some of the Jewish US Ambassadors:
Germany:
Ambassador John C Kornblum
Germany has long been seen as an adversary of the Jews Thus a Jewish Ambassador places them under direct Jewish pressureFrance:
Ambassador Felix Rohatyn
Rohatyn is a former partner in the Jewish Lazard Freres investment bank In September the French oil company, "Total," invested $2 billion in the production of oil in Iran Rohatyn is seeking to Veto this project due to Israel's hostility toward Iran Rohatyn said; "Globalization doesn't carry a threat, but it carries discipline"Poland:
Ambassador Daniel Fried
Chester Grabowski, editor of "The Polish Post Eagle", and others urged Clinton to name a Polish American This plea was ignored There has never been a Jew ambassador to Poland before as Jews hold an animosity toward Poles This is considered as a gross insult Regardless, Fried jokingly said: "I will now have to brush up on their language"Denmark:
Ambassador Edward E Elson
Dr Fields attended Marist High School in Atlanta with the Elson brothers He learned that their family made a fortune in the textile business and are big contributors to the Democratic PartyHungary:
Ambassador Donald M Blinken
This country has long been considered "anti-Semitic" Budapest has the largest Jewish population in Europe, some 125,000 Jews, only exceeded by Paris Thus Blinken can protect their financial interestsRomania:
Ambassador Alfred H Moses
At one time Romania was ruled by an allJewish Communist Party under Anna Pauka Romania is closely allied with Israel Six members of the Rumanian Senate, three of them priests, objected to Clinton's 1994 appointment of Moses stating that he was closely connected to the fallen Communist Ceausescu regimeBelgium:
Ambassador Alan J Blinken
Antwerp, Belgium is the diamond capital of the world next to Tel Aviv The diamond business is totally Jew-controlled Blinken is in a position to further protect their interests He is related to the Blinken ambassador to HungaryBelarus:
Ambassador Kenneth S Yalowitz
Belarus is located between Poland and Russia It once had a huge Jewish population They still have interests thereSouth Africa:
Ambassador James A Joseph
The Jewish Oppenheimer family controls this gold mining capital of the world The Jewish-run South African Communist Party and the ANC now control the government and loyally do the bidding of the gold interests)India:
Ambassador Frank G Wisner
This economic powerhouse has long sided with the Arabs against Israel and needs more Zionist controlTurkey:
Ambassador Marc Grossman
The "Kemalist" Turkey is the only Middle East border country with a military alliance with Israel They pose a threat to Syria and Iraq over long simmering border disputes Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was a secret Jewish infiltrator ! This explains the alliance between the Ataturk-influenced military regime in Turkey and the fraudulent and criminal state of Israel! This also explains the opposition of the "kémalian" junta against the rennaisance of Islam amongst the muslim people of Turkey!New Zealand:
Ambassador Josiah H BeemanEgypt:
Ambassador Daniel C Kurtzer
Egypt is the recipient of the second largest amount of US foreign aid This is to "buy off" Israel's southern front Any hostility toward Israel would end the aid)Sweden:
Ambassador Thomas L SiebertMorocco:
Ambassador Marc C GinsbergSingapore:
Ambassador Timothy A ChorbaZambia:
Ambassador Arlene RenderBrazil:
Ambassador Melvyn Levitsky
This is South America's largest country and economic powerhouse Jews have huge investments hereBolivia:
Ambassador Curt W Kamman
This is another mineral rich country; copper, magnesium, lead, etcMexico:
Ambassador Jeffrey Davidow
Davidow was formerly Assistant Secy Of State for South America under Albright Mexico sends the US more immigrants and trade than any other nationCanada:
Ambassador Gordon Giffin
Thus Clinton has given both our border neighbors, Mexico and Canada, to Jewish operativesCuba:
US Interest Head, Michael G Kozak
One would think that this nation would have a Spanish Catholi "Interest Chief" instead of a Jew???Norway:
Ambassador David B Hermelin
Hermelin is a Michigan multi-millionaire real estate developer and president of the World Jewish ORT Union Re owns Palace Sports and Entertainment, "The Palace" of Auburn Hills and the "Pine Knob Music Theater"Switzerland:
Ambassador Madeleine M Kunin
Kunin is the former Democratic governor of Vermont Her four children attended a Hebrew school The New York Times of Oct 4, 1997 says she, "doggedly pursues the Swiss on the issue of gold for holocaust survivors" -
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Origins of SHOCK AND AWE
by chachasmum inthe basis of hitler's blitzkrieg, march 14, 2003 .
reviewer: a reader from langley, va, united states shock and awe were the foundational concepts put forth by hitler's military leaders as a new and lethal way of rapidly overwhelming opponents.
setting aside considerations of the violence visited on civilians and non-combatants or the damage done to infrastructure, hitler suggested that inducing "shock and awe" through his "lightning war" system would lead to rapid military victories.
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ThiChi:
My last two posts in this thread attempted to explain the basis on which I was projecting the information regarding "zionist" conspiracies. It is difficult to swallow or imagine that such a thing exists. It was difficult for russians to imagine the atrocities of Stalin and the inner dealings of the KGB. Outspoken critics were silenced. I am sure no repsectable, peaceloving jew wants to hear about zionist conspiracies like germans did not want to hear about concentration camps.
You and your friend/supporter Francois are under no obligation to agree with the information. Enjoy your rights!
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Origins of SHOCK AND AWE
by chachasmum inthe basis of hitler's blitzkrieg, march 14, 2003 .
reviewer: a reader from langley, va, united states shock and awe were the foundational concepts put forth by hitler's military leaders as a new and lethal way of rapidly overwhelming opponents.
setting aside considerations of the violence visited on civilians and non-combatants or the damage done to infrastructure, hitler suggested that inducing "shock and awe" through his "lightning war" system would lead to rapid military victories.
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Francois